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		<title>By: Environmental News Bits&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Live Off The Fat - Making Biofuels From Wasted Fat</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/13/live-off-the-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-31513</link>
		<dc:creator>Environmental News Bits&#187;Blog Archive &#187; Live Off The Fat - Making Biofuels From Wasted Fat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 14:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the fat that goes to waste in our country? Learn how we can make renewable fuel from wasted fats.read more &#124; digg story       &#8226; &#8226; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the fat that goes to waste in our country? Learn how we can make renewable fuel from wasted fats.read more | digg story       &#8226; &#8226; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/13/live-off-the-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-31447</link>
		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 04:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using petroleum is &quot;living off the earth &quot;.  Some belief systems might say it was put here for us to use to get to  the point where we can move to the next source of energy.

We used the forests, then we used whale fat, then we used petroleum, then we used atomic energy.

What is the next logical step?

Efficiency is always the best idea regardless of the fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using petroleum is &#8220;living off the earth &#8220;.  Some belief systems might say it was put here for us to use to get to  the point where we can move to the next source of energy.</p>
<p>We used the forests, then we used whale fat, then we used petroleum, then we used atomic energy.</p>
<p>What is the next logical step?</p>
<p>Efficiency is always the best idea regardless of the fuel.</p>
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		<title>By: mouseydew</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rt, really great enthusiasm for all fuels other than the petrol family. I too hope that we reach a point where we see fuel that we at least have a better knowledge of being able to produce it versus the reserves game of finding oil beneath the earth&#039;s rug. Ultimately, I think that it would be awesome if we embraced more of the Native philosophy of living off the earth in a manner in which we actually use everything that we harvest. So, in the end, we probably do have enough energy, it is the harder choice to look in the mirror and notice just how sloppy we are at the table of resource use than future generations were. Behavioral changes are the hardest to bring about, but the cheapest economically. So, let&#039;s see some revized urban planning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rt, really great enthusiasm for all fuels other than the petrol family. I too hope that we reach a point where we see fuel that we at least have a better knowledge of being able to produce it versus the reserves game of finding oil beneath the earth&#8217;s rug. Ultimately, I think that it would be awesome if we embraced more of the Native philosophy of living off the earth in a manner in which we actually use everything that we harvest. So, in the end, we probably do have enough energy, it is the harder choice to look in the mirror and notice just how sloppy we are at the table of resource use than future generations were. Behavioral changes are the hardest to bring about, but the cheapest economically. So, let&#8217;s see some revized urban planning!</p>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/13/live-off-the-fat/comment-page-1/#comment-31412</link>
		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 00:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd, leaving a coment at your own post - but I couldn&#039;t figure out how to work this in.  Besides, if you take the time to read the comments you must be interested.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auri.org/news/ainjan06/AURI-01-2006.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This is a dated&lt;/a&gt; (01-06) piece but it is full of interesting tidbits.  I have always felt that farmers must be some of the most efficient people in the world.  That may have been true in pre-industrial time (and may still be true for a very samll farm today) but in today&#039;s large corporate farms the decisions are not made by the farmer, they are made by the corporate office.  It&#039;s not that the corporate office intends to be inefficient, they just don&#039;t know the processes as well.

I can imagine the small farmer calculating what must be grown to provide the fuel needed for the farm equipment.  Capital costs (and all that) enter in but the cogs are whirrin&#039;.  Local power, local consumption.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.auri.org/news/ainjan06/AURI-01-2006.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read the piece&lt;/a&gt; - rather encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd, leaving a coment at your own post &#8211; but I couldn&#8217;t figure out how to work this in.  Besides, if you take the time to read the comments you must be interested.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.auri.org/news/ainjan06/AURI-01-2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">This is a dated</a> (01-06) piece but it is full of interesting tidbits.  I have always felt that farmers must be some of the most efficient people in the world.  That may have been true in pre-industrial time (and may still be true for a very samll farm today) but in today&#8217;s large corporate farms the decisions are not made by the farmer, they are made by the corporate office.  It&#8217;s not that the corporate office intends to be inefficient, they just don&#8217;t know the processes as well.</p>
<p>I can imagine the small farmer calculating what must be grown to provide the fuel needed for the farm equipment.  Capital costs (and all that) enter in but the cogs are whirrin&#8217;.  Local power, local consumption.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.auri.org/news/ainjan06/AURI-01-2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Read the piece</a> &#8211; rather encouraging.</p>
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