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	<title>Comments on: American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 1)</title>
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		<title>By: Sylvain Duford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvain Duford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, looking forward to reading the rest of the series.

You said: &quot;How is it that the citizens of a democracy would fail to rouse themselves to turn out of office a governing cabal that lacked even a fig leaf of legitimacy? Why weren’t we so appalled that we did not take to the streets to get rid of office holders who represented no one but themselves and their rich friends? &quot;

As an outside observer, I have been asking myselef those very same questions for years...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, looking forward to reading the rest of the series.</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;How is it that the citizens of a democracy would fail to rouse themselves to turn out of office a governing cabal that lacked even a fig leaf of legitimacy? Why weren’t we so appalled that we did not take to the streets to get rid of office holders who represented no one but themselves and their rich friends? &#8221;</p>
<p>As an outside observer, I have been asking myselef those very same questions for years&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tragic Planet &#187; Excellent blog that discusses climate change and green technology.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tragic Planet &#187; Excellent blog that discusses climate change and green technology.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Wertz, one of the contribtors, wrote a great four-part essay on American Exceptionalism and Global Warming. Food for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 4)</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/18/american-exceptionalism-and-global-warming-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-37997</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 4)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 18:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note: Read part one two and three)In the first three parts of this essay, I offered a portrait of American life as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just give me my Football, NASCAR, and Beer and I&#039;ll go along with almost anything.

Thanks fir asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just give me my Football, NASCAR, and Beer and I&#8217;ll go along with almost anything.</p>
<p>Thanks fir asking.</p>
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		<title>By: The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 3)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 3)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2007 02:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] note: Read part one and two) I must admit, my friends, that at this point I do not have a handle on a compelling moral [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 2)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Sietch Blog &#187; American Exceptionalism And Global Warming (Part 2)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I’ll begin exploring the shape for our curious political life, as outlined in Part 1, by accounts of the run-up to the Iraq war and the behavior of the Democrats during the period 2000 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: keithf</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 11:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Russell, welcome to The Sietch. I think you have just the right amount of passion to find solutions. I wrote a very similar article called &quot;Why The Public Won&#039;t Change&quot;, which made similar points to yours, except I don&#039;t believe this is a political issue, it goes far deeper to what we do (or don&#039;t ) care about.

The solutions are complex, but I have made a placeholder, which I will be building on over the next few months. It&#039;s partly based on &quot;4 Essential Ways To Save The Earth&quot;, with a lot more soya to the bones. Have a glance at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thegreenprint.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.thegreenprint.org&lt;/a&gt;.

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Russell, welcome to The Sietch. I think you have just the right amount of passion to find solutions. I wrote a very similar article called &#8220;Why The Public Won&#8217;t Change&#8221;, which made similar points to yours, except I don&#8217;t believe this is a political issue, it goes far deeper to what we do (or don&#8217;t ) care about.</p>
<p>The solutions are complex, but I have made a placeholder, which I will be building on over the next few months. It&#8217;s partly based on &#8220;4 Essential Ways To Save The Earth&#8221;, with a lot more soya to the bones. Have a glance at <a href="http://www.thegreenprint.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.thegreenprint.org</a>.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dew, You really want to put a vitriolic assessment of one political administration on the same level as MLK&#039;s rebuttal of institutionalized racism?  This post was meant to incite, MLK was explanatory not inflamatory.  In contrast to MLK&#039;s peaceful speaches where he eloquently made the case for racial equality there were others who incited riots.  The list is too long to mention but here are two lists (not all racially related) &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US Civil Unrest&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;world&lt;/a&gt; where people turned to violence to air their griefs.  This specific violence was between &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-Nothing_Riot_of_1856&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;two political parties&lt;/a&gt; organized gangs.  The end does not justify the means - that&#039;s why I was waiting for proposed solutions from Russell.

Ghandi, allegedly MLK&#039;s role model, made it more direct.  He had an eloquent argument for the British, but he also had a simple instruction for the masses.  If you don&#039;t like British rule then don&#039;t buy their stuff.  &quot;Economic rebellion&quot; is a very powerful tool.

You said &quot;dialog is nice, but somehow I am losing trust daily of believing that these elected officials represent the views of the masses.&quot;.  People get the government they deserve.  If the pols are not delivering on promises then they have to be held accountable by the people who elected them. If someone else&#039;s electected official isn&#039;t doing what you want they may be doing what their constituants want - that&#039;s why we all get to elect our own.

This is post, as it stands, is just a list of complaints about one administration.  That&#039;s why this country is better than you give it credit for, we get to complain openly.  If you think control of the press is bad now you should have been around in the 1950s.  I really think this administration would like to have lived in that time.  Not so much George, he&#039;s just a puppet, but the cabal who wish to remain anonymous.  The problem is we are evolving into a plutocracy.  We have not arrived but there are disturbing signs of us heading that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dew, You really want to put a vitriolic assessment of one political administration on the same level as MLK&#8217;s rebuttal of institutionalized racism?  This post was meant to incite, MLK was explanatory not inflamatory.  In contrast to MLK&#8217;s peaceful speaches where he eloquently made the case for racial equality there were others who incited riots.  The list is too long to mention but here are two lists (not all racially related) <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States" rel="nofollow">US Civil Unrest</a> and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots" rel="nofollow">world</a> where people turned to violence to air their griefs.  This specific violence was between <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know-Nothing_Riot_of_1856" rel="nofollow">two political parties</a> organized gangs.  The end does not justify the means &#8211; that&#8217;s why I was waiting for proposed solutions from Russell.</p>
<p>Ghandi, allegedly MLK&#8217;s role model, made it more direct.  He had an eloquent argument for the British, but he also had a simple instruction for the masses.  If you don&#8217;t like British rule then don&#8217;t buy their stuff.  &#8220;Economic rebellion&#8221; is a very powerful tool.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;dialog is nice, but somehow I am losing trust daily of believing that these elected officials represent the views of the masses.&#8221;.  People get the government they deserve.  If the pols are not delivering on promises then they have to be held accountable by the people who elected them. If someone else&#8217;s electected official isn&#8217;t doing what you want they may be doing what their constituants want &#8211; that&#8217;s why we all get to elect our own.</p>
<p>This is post, as it stands, is just a list of complaints about one administration.  That&#8217;s why this country is better than you give it credit for, we get to complain openly.  If you think control of the press is bad now you should have been around in the 1950s.  I really think this administration would like to have lived in that time.  Not so much George, he&#8217;s just a puppet, but the cabal who wish to remain anonymous.  The problem is we are evolving into a plutocracy.  We have not arrived but there are disturbing signs of us heading that way.</p>
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		<title>By: dew</title>
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		<dc:creator>dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russell, I think your first line would have been more powerful had you used the first part of that famous Emerson line  &quot;A FOOLISH&quot; consistency. Ahh, and &#039;staying the course&#039; has brought us so far! Rt, dialog is nice, but somehow I am losing trust daily of believing that these elected officials represent the views of the masses. Let us not forget the &#039;mobs&#039; of people that participated in MLK events across the country in January of 2003 demonstrating their disagreement with the then faint glimmer that our troops would be sent overseas.  However, I do agree that we all should &#039;beware of labels&#039;. ...and of course, Russell, welcome to the fold!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russell, I think your first line would have been more powerful had you used the first part of that famous Emerson line  &#8220;A FOOLISH&#8221; consistency. Ahh, and &#8217;staying the course&#8217; has brought us so far! Rt, dialog is nice, but somehow I am losing trust daily of believing that these elected officials represent the views of the masses. Let us not forget the &#8216;mobs&#8217; of people that participated in MLK events across the country in January of 2003 demonstrating their disagreement with the then faint glimmer that our troops would be sent overseas.  However, I do agree that we all should &#8216;beware of labels&#8217;. &#8230;and of course, Russell, welcome to the fold!</p>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice diatribe.  A couple of issues:

&quot;efforts to eliminate taxes on estates of over two million dollars (the first $2 million has been tax free for years) ought to give ordinary citizens pause.&quot;
When I die and leave the family farm to my children they will be responsible for taxes incurred by my untimely death.  Not all inheiritance value is liquid.  Not all intergenerational wealth accumulation is evil.  You would have the very gov&#039;t you decry take my money away from my family and give it to someone else.

&quot;such as the electromagnetic spectrum to media and communications giants&quot;
The companies involved bid for that spectrum and ended up paying billions of dollars - perhaps more than is economically reasonable (a side effect of the bidding process).  Perhaps one of the reasons the cost of renting a cell phone hasn&#039;t come down more that it has.

&quot;you know these things yet continue living without political passion is the great enigma&quot;
There is no political passion because people are comfortable and selecting a politician is like deciding between dumb and dumber.

&quot;explaining why poor people will vote Republican&quot;
Beware of labels.  If you vote a straight party ticket you are taking the lazy way out.  By not considering all candidates you are abdicating your power of choice.  Thinking that one party is different than the other  is like thinking there is a difference between blacks and whites - everyone is human and subject to the same weaknesses.

&quot;Why weren’t we so appalled that we did not take to the streets to get rid of office holders who represented no one but themselves and their rich friends?&quot;
We take to the polling booths, not the streets.  Inciting mob mentality benefits only anarchy, not democracy.  Streets are for show, dialog is for results.


Many of your points are spot on, others aren&#039;t worth quibbling about (close but in need of refinement).  It will be interesting to see what you offer in the way of solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice diatribe.  A couple of issues:</p>
<p>&#8220;efforts to eliminate taxes on estates of over two million dollars (the first $2 million has been tax free for years) ought to give ordinary citizens pause.&#8221;<br />
When I die and leave the family farm to my children they will be responsible for taxes incurred by my untimely death.  Not all inheiritance value is liquid.  Not all intergenerational wealth accumulation is evil.  You would have the very gov&#8217;t you decry take my money away from my family and give it to someone else.</p>
<p>&#8220;such as the electromagnetic spectrum to media and communications giants&#8221;<br />
The companies involved bid for that spectrum and ended up paying billions of dollars &#8211; perhaps more than is economically reasonable (a side effect of the bidding process).  Perhaps one of the reasons the cost of renting a cell phone hasn&#8217;t come down more that it has.</p>
<p>&#8220;you know these things yet continue living without political passion is the great enigma&#8221;<br />
There is no political passion because people are comfortable and selecting a politician is like deciding between dumb and dumber.</p>
<p>&#8220;explaining why poor people will vote Republican&#8221;<br />
Beware of labels.  If you vote a straight party ticket you are taking the lazy way out.  By not considering all candidates you are abdicating your power of choice.  Thinking that one party is different than the other  is like thinking there is a difference between blacks and whites &#8211; everyone is human and subject to the same weaknesses.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why weren’t we so appalled that we did not take to the streets to get rid of office holders who represented no one but themselves and their rich friends?&#8221;<br />
We take to the polling booths, not the streets.  Inciting mob mentality benefits only anarchy, not democracy.  Streets are for show, dialog is for results.</p>
<p>Many of your points are spot on, others aren&#8217;t worth quibbling about (close but in need of refinement).  It will be interesting to see what you offer in the way of solutions.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 04:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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