Comments on: The Hidden Cost Of The Global Meat Trade http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/ The voice of The Sietch community Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:22:31 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Permaculture Research Institute of Australia » Pandemic Ahoy? http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-86913 Permaculture Research Institute of Australia » Pandemic Ahoy? Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:06:12 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-86913 [...] … Locating large chicken farms near cities might make economic sense, but the close concentration of the birds to densely populated areas can help foster and spread disease, Nierenberg says. In Laos, 42 of the 45 outbreaks of avian flu in the spring of 2004 occurred on factory farms, and 38 were in the capital, Vientiane (the few small farms in the city where outbreaks occurred were located close to commercial operations). In Nigeria, the first cases of avian flu were found in an industrial broiler operation; it spread from that 46,000-bird farm to 30 other factory farms, then quickly to neighboring backyard flocks, forcing already-poor farmers to kill their chickens. - The Sietch Blog [...] [...] … Locating large chicken farms near cities might make economic sense, but the close concentration of the birds to densely populated areas can help foster and spread disease, Nierenberg says. In Laos, 42 of the 45 outbreaks of avian flu in the spring of 2004 occurred on factory farms, and 38 were in the capital, Vientiane (the few small farms in the city where outbreaks occurred were located close to commercial operations). In Nigeria, the first cases of avian flu were found in an industrial broiler operation; it spread from that 46,000-bird farm to 30 other factory farms, then quickly to neighboring backyard flocks, forcing already-poor farmers to kill their chickens. – The Sietch Blog [...]

]]> By: Permaculture Research Institute USA » Pandemic Ahoy? http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-86912 Permaculture Research Institute USA » Pandemic Ahoy? Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:03:57 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-86912 [...] … Locating large chicken farms near cities might make economic sense, but the close concentration of the birds to densely populated areas can help foster and spread disease, Nierenberg says. In Laos, 42 of the 45 outbreaks of avian flu in the spring of 2004 occurred on factory farms, and 38 were in the capital, Vientiane (the few small farms in the city where outbreaks occurred were located close to commercial operations). In Nigeria, the first cases of avian flu were found in an industrial broiler operation; it spread from that 46,000-bird farm to 30 other factory farms, then quickly to neighboring backyard flocks, forcing already-poor farmers to kill their chickens. - The Sietch Blog [...] [...] … Locating large chicken farms near cities might make economic sense, but the close concentration of the birds to densely populated areas can help foster and spread disease, Nierenberg says. In Laos, 42 of the 45 outbreaks of avian flu in the spring of 2004 occurred on factory farms, and 38 were in the capital, Vientiane (the few small farms in the city where outbreaks occurred were located close to commercial operations). In Nigeria, the first cases of avian flu were found in an industrial broiler operation; it spread from that 46,000-bird farm to 30 other factory farms, then quickly to neighboring backyard flocks, forcing already-poor farmers to kill their chickens. – The Sietch Blog [...]

]]> By: keithf http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32476 keithf Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:05:33 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-32476 Great kick up the backside Guys. It needs to be said again and again that the more animals you have in close proximity, the higher the chance of a deadly mutation taking place. Evolution results from certain random mutations finding a niche that the resultant organism can take hold within. A virus that develops with the ability to cross species but with a limited lifespan has plenty of opportunity to "experiment" with organisms in a cramped, overpopulated environment. Enter the farmer, seeing to a bleeding, pecked bird with that virus, and... It takes a particular type of stupidity, unique to capital hungry humans, not to realise that our own farming habits are creating the conditions for our own demise. Great kick up the backside Guys. It needs to be said again and again that the more animals you have in close proximity, the higher the chance of a deadly mutation taking place. Evolution results from certain random mutations finding a niche that the resultant organism can take hold within. A virus that develops with the ability to cross species but with a limited lifespan has plenty of opportunity to “experiment” with organisms in a cramped, overpopulated environment. Enter the farmer, seeing to a bleeding, pecked bird with that virus, and…

It takes a particular type of stupidity, unique to capital hungry humans, not to realise that our own farming habits are creating the conditions for our own demise.

]]> By: Is It Crunch Time for Factory Farms? » Celsias http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32471 Is It Crunch Time for Factory Farms? » Celsias Tue, 20 Feb 2007 09:15:10 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-32471 [...] Intensive animal farming is not only deleterious to human health and economies; it is also responsible for a great deal of ecological destruction. The growing numbers of livestock are responsible for 18 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions (as measured in carbon dioxide equivalent). They account for 37 percent of emissions of methane, which has more than 20 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and 65 percent of emissions of nitrous oxide, another powerful greenhouse gas, most of which comes from manure. - The Sietch Blog [...] [...] Intensive animal farming is not only deleterious to human health and economies; it is also responsible for a great deal of ecological destruction. The growing numbers of livestock are responsible for 18 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions (as measured in carbon dioxide equivalent). They account for 37 percent of emissions of methane, which has more than 20 times the global warming potential of carbon dioxide, and 65 percent of emissions of nitrous oxide, another powerful greenhouse gas, most of which comes from manure. – The Sietch Blog [...]

]]> By: The Naib http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32379 The Naib Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:49:40 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-32379 You might also want to check out Keith's excellent article about vegetarianism and the environment. http://earth-blog.bravejournal.com/entry/17001 You might also want to check out Keith’s excellent article about vegetarianism and the environment.
http://earth-blog.bravejournal.com/entry/17001

]]> By: Craig Mackintosh http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32377 Craig Mackintosh Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:08:20 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-32377 This is excellent news (the report, that is...). It's an excellent follow-up to a <a href="http://www.celsias.com/blog/2007/02/14/will-disease-halt-global-warming/" rel="nofollow">post I did</a> a couple of days ago. It would be nice if this report, along with the UN's <a href="http://www.celsias.com/blog/2006/12/11/the-cow-public-enemy-number-one/" rel="nofollow">Lifestock's Long Shadow Report</a>, would position the whole factory farm industry at the top of a big slippery slide into history. This is excellent news (the report, that is…). It’s an excellent follow-up to a post I did a couple of days ago. It would be nice if this report, along with the UN’s Lifestock’s Long Shadow Report, would position the whole factory farm industry at the top of a big slippery slide into history.

]]> By: dew http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-32339 dew Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:45:43 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2007/02/19/the-hidden-cost-of-the-global-meat-trade/#comment-32339 Guest? I hope Darcey will join so that we may enjoy more of her work. As a follow up, I would love for the thought of how the amounts of pesticides on produce being sold throughout the world has huge impacts on our health, not only from side effects but poor nutritional value, be explored. To what degree could we argue that maybe some of that avian flu is a result of global warming? Of course, ultimately, it would be great to see someone calculate how we could feed the world on moderate diets of any/all types with radical changes to how we produce food currently i.e. eliminateing CAFOs, no pesticides, etc. Guest? I hope Darcey will join so that we may enjoy more of her work. As a follow up, I would love for the thought of how the amounts of pesticides on produce being sold throughout the world has huge impacts on our health, not only from side effects but poor nutritional value, be explored. To what degree could we argue that maybe some of that avian flu is a result of global warming? Of course, ultimately, it would be great to see someone calculate how we could feed the world on moderate diets of any/all types with radical changes to how we produce food currently i.e. eliminateing CAFOs, no pesticides, etc.

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