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	<title>Comments on: Cutting The Lawn While Cutting The Emissions, New Biodiesel Lawn Mowers From Toro</title>
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		<title>By: Lawn Mower Wheels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawn Mower Wheels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 02:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if these are going to be difficult to maintain, or difficult to find parts for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if these are going to be difficult to maintain, or difficult to find parts for?</p>
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		<title>By: Preston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Get off you fat butt and use a push-mower.&quot;

No, I use a robotic lawn mower, which is electric and costs me an additional 10 dollars a year in electricity to mow my 1/2 acre lot.  There&#039;s no way I&#039;m using an old push lawn mower, ever.  If I ever go back to using a gas hog I would be surprised.  These little robotic mowers are too fun to watch and enjoy.  Instead of talking about going back to the old days, innovate, come up with something new.  

And anything large enough to not use a robotic, you don&#039;t want to use a push mower on.  Check out the reviews at http://www.bambots.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Get off you fat butt and use a push-mower.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, I use a robotic lawn mower, which is electric and costs me an additional 10 dollars a year in electricity to mow my 1/2 acre lot.  There&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m using an old push lawn mower, ever.  If I ever go back to using a gas hog I would be surprised.  These little robotic mowers are too fun to watch and enjoy.  Instead of talking about going back to the old days, innovate, come up with something new.  </p>
<p>And anything large enough to not use a robotic, you don&#8217;t want to use a push mower on.  Check out the reviews at <a href="http://www.bambots.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bambots.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Ott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Ott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biofuels are better but they are just a bandaid. Improving the world takes many small steps however, and why not start here? Larger sustainability measures can come in later. 

On the other hand, there is something to be said for no compromises, push-mowing, or no mowing at all--ie, grow food or let the land lie fallow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biofuels are better but they are just a bandaid. Improving the world takes many small steps however, and why not start here? Larger sustainability measures can come in later. </p>
<p>On the other hand, there is something to be said for no compromises, push-mowing, or no mowing at all&#8211;ie, grow food or let the land lie fallow.</p>
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		<title>By: jp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting -

At HUGR (www.hugr.com) we converted Toro equipment to biodiesel starting in 1999.

Disney burned our fuel in the forward swept batwing pictured above a couple years back.

Guess they liked our ideas.

HUGR</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting -</p>
<p>At HUGR (www.hugr.com) we converted Toro equipment to biodiesel starting in 1999.</p>
<p>Disney burned our fuel in the forward swept batwing pictured above a couple years back.</p>
<p>Guess they liked our ideas.</p>
<p>HUGR</p>
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		<title>By: Ecotality &#187; File Under &#8220;I Want One and I Hope My Neighbors Want One Too&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ecotality &#187; File Under &#8220;I Want One and I Hope My Neighbors Want One Too&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Sietch Blog has more info about this as well as Toro&#8217;s plan to give three hydrogen fuel cell powered utility vehicle prototypes to the Niagara Falls State Park Department. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 14:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, I trust no one, but I try to keep my distrust in check as well.  Anger can blind you to reality if it goes unchecked.  Beware of painting with too broad of a brush.

Another way to look at this is, if a person is thoughtful enough to pay the money to switch to a biofuel mower they are probably concientious in other ways as well.  The are just doing the best they can with the products available.  They may avoid using pesticides.  They may have flower gardens that the smaller coinhabitants of the earth enjoy.  They may compost their waste.  I&#039;m not saying gas burners don&#039;t do these things as well, I just think a bio burner would be more likely.  Any one who grows plants is helping the CO2 problem.

The bio burner may also more likely to switch to electric (if there is a model that will handle their yard).  Take your allies where you can get them.  The not-green-enough attitude is counter productive when you are trying to convince people to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, I trust no one, but I try to keep my distrust in check as well.  Anger can blind you to reality if it goes unchecked.  Beware of painting with too broad of a brush.</p>
<p>Another way to look at this is, if a person is thoughtful enough to pay the money to switch to a biofuel mower they are probably concientious in other ways as well.  The are just doing the best they can with the products available.  They may avoid using pesticides.  They may have flower gardens that the smaller coinhabitants of the earth enjoy.  They may compost their waste.  I&#8217;m not saying gas burners don&#8217;t do these things as well, I just think a bio burner would be more likely.  Any one who grows plants is helping the CO2 problem.</p>
<p>The bio burner may also more likely to switch to electric (if there is a model that will handle their yard).  Take your allies where you can get them.  The not-green-enough attitude is counter productive when you are trying to convince people to change.</p>
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		<title>By: keithf</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi RT

George Bush has shown by his actions (not his political position) to be the antithesis of environmentalism. So by definition, if George Bush supports it then I am supsicious. The same could be said for Fred Singer - but fewer people have heard of him.

The other points are fair comment though. CO2 is consumed during the growing, but then released during the burning - so we must keep growing - and here&#039;s the important point - in a way that ensures a net reduction in emissions.

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi RT</p>
<p>George Bush has shown by his actions (not his political position) to be the antithesis of environmentalism. So by definition, if George Bush supports it then I am supsicious. The same could be said for Fred Singer &#8211; but fewer people have heard of him.</p>
<p>The other points are fair comment though. CO2 is consumed during the growing, but then released during the burning &#8211; so we must keep growing &#8211; and here&#8217;s the important point &#8211; in a way that ensures a net reduction in emissions.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Rt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two reasons biofuel is better.

Since it is grown, it consumed some CO2 in the production process (dino fuels did as well but that was some time ago).  I&#039;m led to believe there are those who think CO2 is an evil thing.

The emissions from burning biofuels are reported to be less than dino fuel.  I have to take them at their word.

You are correct that changing habits is a far superior answer.  If you can get the general population to conserve energy will you get them off of those stupid &quot;reality&quot; shows next - please?

There is an evolutionary path here.  We start by getting off of dino, go to cleaner fuels, then get off of burning altogether.  Yes, it takes time.

BTW, never politicize a scientific argument - you lose credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two reasons biofuel is better.</p>
<p>Since it is grown, it consumed some CO2 in the production process (dino fuels did as well but that was some time ago).  I&#8217;m led to believe there are those who think CO2 is an evil thing.</p>
<p>The emissions from burning biofuels are reported to be less than dino fuel.  I have to take them at their word.</p>
<p>You are correct that changing habits is a far superior answer.  If you can get the general population to conserve energy will you get them off of those stupid &#8220;reality&#8221; shows next &#8211; please?</p>
<p>There is an evolutionary path here.  We start by getting off of dino, go to cleaner fuels, then get off of burning altogether.  Yes, it takes time.</p>
<p>BTW, never politicize a scientific argument &#8211; you lose credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: keithf</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 19:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting rather worried that the proliferation of ideas utilising &quot;biofuels&quot; will mask the key issue, that we are using far to much fuel in the first place. Biofuels are no better that so-called offsetting : they are just guilt reduction. One day, when all the land has been ploughed up and the carbon released from the soil, and the forests are flattened and we are carrying on burning our green biofuels like we did with oil, then we might wonder where we went wrong.

Think of it this way : George Bush is a supporter of biofuels. Do you need any more reasons to be wary of them?

Sorry, Naib, but I can&#039;t see the promotion of biofuels as being a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting rather worried that the proliferation of ideas utilising &#8220;biofuels&#8221; will mask the key issue, that we are using far to much fuel in the first place. Biofuels are no better that so-called offsetting : they are just guilt reduction. One day, when all the land has been ploughed up and the carbon released from the soil, and the forests are flattened and we are carrying on burning our green biofuels like we did with oil, then we might wonder where we went wrong.</p>
<p>Think of it this way : George Bush is a supporter of biofuels. Do you need any more reasons to be wary of them?</p>
<p>Sorry, Naib, but I can&#8217;t see the promotion of biofuels as being a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: ajkrik</title>
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		<dc:creator>ajkrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 17:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get off you fat butt and use a push-mower.</description>
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		<title>By: Biodiesel lawn mowers have arrived--</title>
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		<dc:creator>Biodiesel lawn mowers have arrived--</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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