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	<title>Comments on: Palm Oil Labeling Legislation &#8211; Personal Story Of Taking Action</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M, why should orang-utans live in a &quot;human free environment&quot;? They have happily been co-existing with humans for thousands of years; it&#039;s only the greed of the consumer culture, and it&#039;s fatal lack of connection to the land (something the indigenous people of Sumatra, Borneo and New Guinea have never lost) that has led to us assuming it is acceptable to destroy a habitat for our pathetic consumer items.

Petitions will make no difference, and neither will companies change, because they do what they do in order to make a profit: sorry to disappoint you. It is the whole Culture of Maximum Harm that is the problem. I strongly recommend you read A Matter Of Scale (http://www.amatterofscale.com) and pass it on to your friends. As humans, we have to remember our place in nature, otherwise we die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M, why should orang-utans live in a &#8220;human free environment&#8221;? They have happily been co-existing with humans for thousands of years; it&#8217;s only the greed of the consumer culture, and it&#8217;s fatal lack of connection to the land (something the indigenous people of Sumatra, Borneo and New Guinea have never lost) that has led to us assuming it is acceptable to destroy a habitat for our pathetic consumer items.</p>
<p>Petitions will make no difference, and neither will companies change, because they do what they do in order to make a profit: sorry to disappoint you. It is the whole Culture of Maximum Harm that is the problem. I strongly recommend you read A Matter Of Scale (<a href="http://www.amatterofscale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amatterofscale.com</a>) and pass it on to your friends. As humans, we have to remember our place in nature, otherwise we die.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is crazy! Im a student and we are currently leaning about palm oil and its effects. THIS MUST END. I want my children to be able to see orangutans too. I want to make orangutans live their life as they were meant to, in a happy human-free environment. We wouldnt be happy if someone came and decided to take away our homes, food and water. So why would we do it to them? Governments should open their eyes and face reality. If it is not going to happen now then WHEN? when they are extinct?? THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. Im writing from Australia and Im pretty sure everyone in my class(at least) agrees with me. Amanda, thank you so much for what you are doing and I hope I can help too. We are currently signing petitions to show the Government we care. Palm oil companies should see what they are oing to us, the environment and most importantly the orangutans. 
GOOD LUCK!
M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is crazy! Im a student and we are currently leaning about palm oil and its effects. THIS MUST END. I want my children to be able to see orangutans too. I want to make orangutans live their life as they were meant to, in a happy human-free environment. We wouldnt be happy if someone came and decided to take away our homes, food and water. So why would we do it to them? Governments should open their eyes and face reality. If it is not going to happen now then WHEN? when they are extinct?? THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS. Im writing from Australia and Im pretty sure everyone in my class(at least) agrees with me. Amanda, thank you so much for what you are doing and I hope I can help too. We are currently signing petitions to show the Government we care. Palm oil companies should see what they are oing to us, the environment and most importantly the orangutans.<br />
GOOD LUCK!<br />
M</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Catchpole</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/04/28/palm-oil-labelling-legislation-personal-story-of-taking-action/comment-page-1/#comment-86488</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Catchpole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Amanda,
I am writing from the UK. I have just read your artical and it has made me more determined to act to help save the forests from the devistation it is currently undergoing.
As soon as I end this note I will compile an email with a couple of attachments of the beautiful Orangutan and the deforistation. My mail will be sent to every single person in my address book and I will invite them to send it on. I will add a link to your page.THIS STUPIDITY MUST END.
Very best regards, Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Amanda,<br />
I am writing from the UK. I have just read your artical and it has made me more determined to act to help save the forests from the devistation it is currently undergoing.<br />
As soon as I end this note I will compile an email with a couple of attachments of the beautiful Orangutan and the deforistation. My mail will be sent to every single person in my address book and I will invite them to send it on. I will add a link to your page.THIS STUPIDITY MUST END.<br />
Very best regards, Martin</p>
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		<title>By: WV Green News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Greenpeace Is Exploring Indonesia’s Last Forest Frontier</title>
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		<dc:creator>WV Green News &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Why Greenpeace Is Exploring Indonesia’s Last Forest Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ever-expanding palm oil industry. Other writers on this blog have already covered both the problems with palm oil and some of our earlier work on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Sietch Blog &#187; Why Greenpeace Is Exploring Indonesia&#8217;s Last Forest Frontier</title>
		<link>http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/04/28/palm-oil-labelling-legislation-personal-story-of-taking-action/comment-page-1/#comment-85946</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sietch Blog &#187; Why Greenpeace Is Exploring Indonesia&#8217;s Last Forest Frontier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the ever-expanding palm oil industry. Other writers on this blog have already covered both the problems with palm oil and some of our earlier work on the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Richard Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Zimmerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amanda,

Thank you for such an inspiring post. Here in the US, a lot of people are unfamiliar with palm oil-- and totally unaware of its devastating effects on orangutans. We are finally starting to spread the word -- and I think you serve as a great example for people who want to do their part to save orangutans, protect the forest and stop these insidious palm oil corporations from permanently destroying the earth.

I&#039;ve put up your post and a link back to your site on the Orangutan Outreach blog:  http://redapes.org

Keep up the great work!  Rich


Richard Zimmerman
Director, Orangutan Outreach
http://redapes.org
Reach out and save the orangutans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amanda,</p>
<p>Thank you for such an inspiring post. Here in the US, a lot of people are unfamiliar with palm oil&#8211; and totally unaware of its devastating effects on orangutans. We are finally starting to spread the word &#8212; and I think you serve as a great example for people who want to do their part to save orangutans, protect the forest and stop these insidious palm oil corporations from permanently destroying the earth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put up your post and a link back to your site on the Orangutan Outreach blog:  <a href="http://redapes.org" rel="nofollow">http://redapes.org</a></p>
<p>Keep up the great work!  Rich</p>
<p>Richard Zimmerman<br />
Director, Orangutan Outreach<br />
<a href="http://redapes.org" rel="nofollow">http://redapes.org</a><br />
Reach out and save the orangutans!</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good on you Amanda!   You’re doing an excellent job lobbying politicians on forest issues, and campaigning for environmentally friendly product labelling.

Deforestation is responsible for 20% of global emissions.  Rainforest clearance for oil palm plantations is a major driver of deforestation.  For political reasons, the Kyoto Protocol actually excluded protection for forests.  In hindsight, this was a grievous exclusion, particularly when we consider the amount of rainforest that has been destroyed in recent years.  While delegates at the UN climate change meeting in Bali last December agreed to discuss including protection for forests in the post-2012 climate change agreement, forests remain unprotected and vulnerable during the period 2008-2012.

In March 2007, Australia launched its $200 million Global Initiative on Forests and Climate.  During the Bali meeting, Norway’s Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg, announced that his country was prepared to increase its support to prevent deforestation in developing countries to more than US$500 million a year.  Norway’s Minister of the Environment and International Development, Erik Solheim, said that “an initiative in this area in the next few years can bring about substantial cuts in greenhouse gas emissions while the world is seeking to put in place a new, more comprehensive agreement on climate change.”  http://www.norway.org/policy/environment/avskoging_eng.htm 

It would be fantastic if Australia and Norway could collaborate on addressing the problem of global deforestation, and invite other like-minded countries to join a focused alliance to offer practical and immediate support to rainforest countries to reduce deforestation during the critical period 2008 – 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good on you Amanda!   You’re doing an excellent job lobbying politicians on forest issues, and campaigning for environmentally friendly product labelling.</p>
<p>Deforestation is responsible for 20% of global emissions.  Rainforest clearance for oil palm plantations is a major driver of deforestation.  For political reasons, the Kyoto Protocol actually excluded protection for forests.  In hindsight, this was a grievous exclusion, particularly when we consider the amount of rainforest that has been destroyed in recent years.  While delegates at the UN climate change meeting in Bali last December agreed to discuss including protection for forests in the post-2012 climate change agreement, forests remain unprotected and vulnerable during the period 2008-2012.</p>
<p>In March 2007, Australia launched its $200 million Global Initiative on Forests and Climate.  During the Bali meeting, Norway’s Prime Minister, Jens Stoltenberg, announced that his country was prepared to increase its support to prevent deforestation in developing countries to more than US$500 million a year.  Norway’s Minister of the Environment and International Development, Erik Solheim, said that “an initiative in this area in the next few years can bring about substantial cuts in greenhouse gas emissions while the world is seeking to put in place a new, more comprehensive agreement on climate change.”  <a href="http://www.norway.org/policy/environment/avskoging_eng.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.norway.org/policy/environment/avskoging_eng.htm</a> </p>
<p>It would be fantastic if Australia and Norway could collaborate on addressing the problem of global deforestation, and invite other like-minded countries to join a focused alliance to offer practical and immediate support to rainforest countries to reduce deforestation during the critical period 2008 – 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: AmandaE</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmandaE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Keith,
Fair enough. Maybe it&#039;s a case of &#039;power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely&#039;. If we are given more, we want more. Why is it that rich people always want more?
Interesting comment about tribal people taking only what they need because to take more would be suicidal. Maybe our modern day, greedy humans needs to experience the &#039;suicidal&#039; nature of their actions. ie. When the ecology around them starts to collapse, they will stop taking.
Amanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Keith,<br />
Fair enough. Maybe it&#8217;s a case of &#8216;power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely&#8217;. If we are given more, we want more. Why is it that rich people always want more?<br />
Interesting comment about tribal people taking only what they need because to take more would be suicidal. Maybe our modern day, greedy humans needs to experience the &#8217;suicidal&#8217; nature of their actions. ie. When the ecology around them starts to collapse, they will stop taking.<br />
Amanda</p>
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		<title>By: keithf</title>
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		<dc:creator>keithf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda

I admire the work you are doing, but I completely disagree that greed and selfishness are human nature. It is the lust for wealth and power, generated by a few influential individuals at first, that have brainwashed the majority of people in industrial civilization into thinnking this is the only way to live. Tribal cultures have no concept of greed or selfishness -- that would be suicidal: they only take what they need, and must co-operate in order to survive. Our, so-called, development as humans is not evolutionary -- it is addiction, and there is a way back.

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda</p>
<p>I admire the work you are doing, but I completely disagree that greed and selfishness are human nature. It is the lust for wealth and power, generated by a few influential individuals at first, that have brainwashed the majority of people in industrial civilization into thinnking this is the only way to live. Tribal cultures have no concept of greed or selfishness &#8212; that would be suicidal: they only take what they need, and must co-operate in order to survive. Our, so-called, development as humans is not evolutionary &#8212; it is addiction, and there is a way back.</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: AmandaE</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmandaE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve. I think greed and selfishness are an integral part of human nature, driven by our most basic survival instinct. But we are capable of higher thinking involving compassion and selflessness. Let&#039;s hope that some of our future leaders are capable of higher thinking. Until then, the more of us who scream and shout, the better.
Amanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve. I think greed and selfishness are an integral part of human nature, driven by our most basic survival instinct. But we are capable of higher thinking involving compassion and selflessness. Let&#8217;s hope that some of our future leaders are capable of higher thinking. Until then, the more of us who scream and shout, the better.<br />
Amanda</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Earl Salmony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Earl Salmony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Amanda E,

Thanks for all you are doing.

Do you think the time will ever come when government officials stop employing every ruse under the sun to protect the selfish interests of over-consumers and hoarders, and start by choosing to do the right thing?

Life and human institutions like national economies are utterly dependent upon the Earth for existence; but too many of our leaders view the Earth as some kind of thing to be manipulated, dissipated, and ravaged secondary to their adamant practice of a religion called Endless Economic Growth. This clear and obvious object of their idolatry is the soon to become unsustainable expansion of the leviathan-like, global political economy. What a colossal sham. What a shame. What a shambles for our children to confront.

Always with thanks,

Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Amanda E,</p>
<p>Thanks for all you are doing.</p>
<p>Do you think the time will ever come when government officials stop employing every ruse under the sun to protect the selfish interests of over-consumers and hoarders, and start by choosing to do the right thing?</p>
<p>Life and human institutions like national economies are utterly dependent upon the Earth for existence; but too many of our leaders view the Earth as some kind of thing to be manipulated, dissipated, and ravaged secondary to their adamant practice of a religion called Endless Economic Growth. This clear and obvious object of their idolatry is the soon to become unsustainable expansion of the leviathan-like, global political economy. What a colossal sham. What a shame. What a shambles for our children to confront.</p>
<p>Always with thanks,</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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