Comments on: Campaign Against Climate Change Refuse To Listen: Recorded Phonecall http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/10/10/campaign-against-climate-change-refuse-to-listen-recorded-phonecall/ The voice of The Sietch community Thu, 29 Jul 2010 10:48:42 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: keithf http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/10/10/campaign-against-climate-change-refuse-to-listen-recorded-phonecall/comment-page-1/#comment-85921 keithf Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:25:50 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/?p=4380#comment-85921 John There is nothing at all wrong with changing the public's attitude to climate change -- I have no issue with this at all, and I too have attended a number of marches in the past. Time has taught me, though, that marches are sublimation for the masses (as I describe in <a href="http://www.farnish.plus.com/amatterofscale/chapter14.htm" rel="nofollow">Chapter 14 of A Matter Of Scale</a>) and end up making people feel they have achieved something when they haven't. The attitude of Campaign CC is bizarre, to say the least: debate I welcome; but stonewalling is something approaching psychosis, with an issue this important. If you want solutions, go to the A Matter Of Scale web site (<a href="www.amatterofscale.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.amatterofscale.com</a>) where you can find plenty - you might not like them, though. Keith John

There is nothing at all wrong with changing the public’s attitude to climate change — I have no issue with this at all, and I too have attended a number of marches in the past. Time has taught me, though, that marches are sublimation for the masses (as I describe in Chapter 14 of A Matter Of Scale) and end up making people feel they have achieved something when they haven’t. The attitude of Campaign CC is bizarre, to say the least: debate I welcome; but stonewalling is something approaching psychosis, with an issue this important.

If you want solutions, go to the A Matter Of Scale web site (http://www.amatterofscale.com) where you can find plenty – you might not like them, though.

Keith

]]> By: keithf http://www.blog.thesietch.org/2008/10/10/campaign-against-climate-change-refuse-to-listen-recorded-phonecall/comment-page-1/#comment-85920 keithf Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:20:02 +0000 http://www.blog.thesietch.org/?p=4380#comment-85920 No climate campaign so far has led politicians or the public to take appropriate action on climate change either by working inside or outside the system. If you have some solutions, why not share them on one of your sites. Some people write emails, some go on demonstrations, some join transition movements, some close down power stations. Jonathan Neale (a campaigncc volunteer) says often that demonstrations don't change anything but they do change the people that go on them. And having read "Why The Public Can Change (Conditions Apply)", i think you would probably agree that that is an important step. John another occasional volunteer for campaigncc [posted on behalf of John Ackers] No climate campaign so far has led politicians or the public to take appropriate action on climate change either by working inside or outside the system. If you have some solutions, why not share them on one of your sites.

Some people write emails, some go on demonstrations, some join transition movements, some close down power stations.

Jonathan Neale (a campaigncc volunteer) says often that demonstrations don’t change anything but they do change the people that go on them. And having read “Why The Public Can Change (Conditions Apply)”, i think you would probably agree that that is an important step.

John
another occasional volunteer for campaigncc

[posted on behalf of John Ackers]

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