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The Nuclear Debate, Like The Actual Debate

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IQ2 (intelligence squared) is hosting a debate on the pro’s and cons of nuclear energy. It looks pretty interesting, and you can watch it live from their website.

Here is a taste from the site.

Forget earthquakes and tsunamis. The existential threat we face in Britain comes from global warming and our reliance on unsavoury and unstable regimes for our energy supplies. And there’s only one efficient way of producing energy that does not expose us to such risks: nuclear. Wind power, energy conservation, “clean coal” – they’re small potatoes, additions to the nuclear solution, not substitutes. And far more expensive, too. As for safety, modern state-of-the art reactors – ones not built on geological fault lines – will result in far less loss of life than almost any other form of energy. It’s got to be nuclear.

And yet despite the claims that newer, safer technology is just round the corner, horrific accidents keep on happening. Remember Three Mile Island? No earthquake to blame there, just human error. As for cost, nuclear’s already high price is going to rise as accidents like Fukushima bring about calls for yet more expensive safety regulations. Besides, the political, technological and economic constraints on building new nuclear power stations mean that it will take a decade or more before they come on stream, by which time all the subsidies that could have gone into developing low carbon alternatives will have been gobbled up by the nuclear lobby. It’s got to be nuclear? Only if you’re intent on national suicide.

These are the fault lines on which the arguments over nuclear lie – and even the environmentalists can’t agree amongst themselves. Come and hear the experts on April 26th, add your views to the debate and decide for yourself where to place your vote.

At the end of the debate there will be a vote, so tune in, listen, and if let them know who you felt was the most compelling side. I will refrain from giving you my opinion on nuclear energy (but if you search this site you can get clues), but I have watched debates put on by this organization before and they are always a good time.

if you happen to live in the UK you can even pop in and see it in person.

It’s got to be nuclear

Thursday April 14th, 2011

Doors open at 6pm. The debate starts at 6.45pm and finishes at 8.30pm.

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Coal: A Risky Poposition

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The cost of constructing or retrofitting coal-fired electric power plants and the rising cost of coal have made coal power an extremely risky long-term investment, according to a report released today by the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS). The report, “A Risky Proposition: The Financial Hazards of New Investments in Coal Plants,” also identified a number of other factors that make investing in coal a gamble, including its continuing threat to public health and the environment.

“We have a fleet of ancient, dirty coal plants in this country that are increasingly unreliable and long past due for retirement,” said Barbara Freese, a co-author of the report and senior policy analyst for the UCS Climate and Energy Program. “Plant owners have to decide whether to sink more money into retrofitting those old plants or replacing them with much cleaner energy technologies. But even if they retrofit them with the pollution controls available today, the plants will still emit massive amounts of carbon pollution.

“Replacing old, dirty coal plants with cleaner, cheaper, less risky alternatives would be a much better bet,” she added. “And it would save lives, protect our health and reduce the emissions that cause climate change.”

More than 70 percent of U.S. coal-plant-capacity is already more than 30 years old—the operating lifetime for which coal plants were typically designed—and a third went online before 1970. Some plant operators have announced they will retire old plants. Others are planning to retrofit their plants with modern pollution control technology—which would reduce emissions of several dangerous pollutants, but not carbon.

Such investments would not only make it harder to protect the climate, the report concluded, but also expose investors and ratepayers to a host of financial threats.

 

The factors that make coal power such a precarious investment include:

 

The owners of the most damaging older coal plants have been taking advantage of a legal loophole for decades, Freese pointed out. Clean air legislation and rules put in place in the 1970s did not require existing plants to install pollution control equipment until their next major modification. It was assumed that they would either modify or shut down within a few years.

 

“But coal operators kept these plants running well beyond their expected retirement dates and never installed the pollution controls newer plants were required to use,” Freese said.

 

Even with this loophole, federal air regulations have gone a long way to protect the public health.

The Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990, for example, signed into law by George Herbert Walker Bush, prevented as many as 160,000 premature deaths last year alone, according to the

Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). The amendments also were cost effective. According to the EPA, they’ve cost $65 billion to implement, but their overall financial benefit could reach $2 trillion by 2020.

 

“The success of the 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments shows that requiring coal plants to cut their pollution leads to public health and economic benefits many times higher than the cost for old coal plants to comply with the law,” Freese said. “The amendments have done a lot of good, but we need to do more. Coal plants are still linked to the deaths of thousands of Americans yearly and many other health threats.”

 

Finally, according to the report, the electric power industry could retire many old coal-fired plants without causing reliability problems with the power grid, Freese said.

 

“First, there is a lot of extra generating capacity on the grid right now. And second, energy efficiency and renewable energy investments are reducing the need for coal. It’s a good time to retire coal plants.”

 

Download full study here (pdf) the summary here (pdf)

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Brains Vs Bluster

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Below are the full multi-hour Nov. 17th hearing about climate science. Nothing revolutionary here, but listen to the Republican Rohrabacher, this is what we have to look forward to.

If you only watch one, watch the second, its got some good moments.

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Real Talk From Bill McKibben

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“There is no happy ending anymore where we prevent global warming…” It’s time to act.

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Fully Charged: Electric Car Debate

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This great debate by two people on both sides of the electric car debate. If you want to know where I come down on this, simple, ride your bike.

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